HHO Development - Frequently Asked Questions"

What are the safety issues associated with Water4Gas technology?

How do I find the right wire to splice on my MAP / MAF sensor?

How much HHO does the HHO Generator produce?

Do I need a MAP / MAF sensor Enhancer?

What is an Oxygen Sensor Extender?

How Does an O2 Sensor Work?

How many HHO generators do I need?

Will the HHO Generator or MAP / MAF Enhancer void my warranty?

What do I do in freezing weather?

Is this technology dangerous?

Why are 2 cells better than 1?

 

 

 

 

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Safety Issues: HHO gas is extremely volatile and dangerous. 

a. Do not light HHO directly or indirectly (bubbles) with a match!
b. Do not generate HHO with your generator without the vacuum hose attached. 
c. Do not experiment with HHO generation in a closed area; keep your experimenting area well ventilated.
d. Use check valves with your hoses.
e. Do not run your generator with the motor not running.
f.  Keep the water level no less than 2.5'' from the top of the jar.
g. Wear safety goggles when working with HHO.
h. Do not connect your HHO generator to your battery without a fuse!  Always use a relay.
i.  Make sure the cathode (-)( which produces Hydrogen) and the anode (+) (which produces Oxygen) wires in your generator are not touching.
j.  Use common sense!

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Connecting the MAP / MAF Enhancer: The MAP / MAF sensor has 3 to 6 wires coming out.  The MAP sensor usually has 3, and the MAF sensor usually has 5 or 6.  The wire we are interested in is the "Signal Wire" to the ECM (Electronic Control Module) or vehicle's computer.  This wire will have 0.9 to 1.1 volts running thru it at idle and will constantly vary.  If you rev the engine up you will see an increase in the voltage reading.  Once you have located the "Signal Wire", you must splice it.  Now, you have one end that goes to your sensor (a) and one end that goes to your computer (b).  Your HHODevelopment Enhancer has three wires coming out: (1) a ground wire (black), (2) a Brown wire -  outgoing to the ECM, and (3) the Red wire - Incoming from the MAP / MAF sensor.  Simply connect the ground wire to a grounded location and  (1) to (a) and (2) to (b). 

To find the MAP Sensor Signal Wire, use a Circuit Tester like the one above to find the correct wire.  You can hook this tester in series with your multi-meter to find the actual voltage of the wires coming out of the MAP Sensor.  The correct wire is the one with the lowest voltage or the one with a voltage that varies when the engine RPM is increased. 

Read the MAP / MAF Installation instructions for full details.

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HHO Production - There are many variables which must be known to answer this question.  These variables include: (a) Surface area of the anode and cathode, that is, the number of spirals within the generator, (b) the amperage delivered to the HHO Cell. This depends on the vehicles alternator and the amount of electrolyte mixed with the distilled water.  The amount of electrolyte used is directly proportional to the current or amperage produced, (c) the type of electrolyte used.  The most common type of electrolyte used is Arm & Hammer baking soda.  However, the most effective electrolyte is potassium hydroxide or "caustic potash".  This electrolyte acts as a catalyst and is not used up during hho generation. Caution: This electrolyte is very hazardous and should only be used under special circumstances. (d) the distance between the anode and the cathode.  The optimal distance is about 1/4'', (e) the temperature of the electrolyte - the higher the temperature the greater the current that flows through the cell.  To adjust for this, you must use less baking soda or potassium hydroxide which will then reduce the amperage through the cell to a safe level. (f) Finally, add more cells to your system.

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Do I need a MAP / MAF Enhancer? -  If your vehicle has a MAP / MAF sensor, you need an Enhancer.  Vehicles newer than 1995 have this sensor. However, diesel engines do not have one. 

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HOW DOES THE MAP SENSOR WORK?

The Manifold Absolute Pressure (MAP) sensor signal is electrically used in a similar way to the use of Mass Air Flow (MAF) sensor signal (although internally it is built differently). It takes a 5 volt signal from the ECM or ECU (Environmental Control Unit or Module) computer, and returns a lower direct current signal in accordance with the vacuum in the engine.  A higher output voltage means lower engine vacuum, which is then calculated as “more fuel is needed”.  Lower output signal indicates higher engine vacuum, which requires less fuel.

It's not just fuel control.  The MAP sensor signal gives the computer a dynamic indication of engine load. The computer then uses this data to control not only fuel injection, but also gear shift and cylinder ignition timing.

As acceleration increases, the voltage
output for the MAP Sensor increases and then decreases when decelerating.

The Enhancer is connected between the MAP Sensor output signal and the ECM.

The Enhancer reduces the output voltage and therefore reduces the amount of fuel sent to the engine.

YouTube - MAP sensor
Explanation of MAP sensor. ... http://www.rightautos.com ...
1 min 55 sec -

Checking The Manifold Absolute Pressure (MAP) Sensor

Purpose:
The Manifold Absolute Pressure (MAP) sensor is used to monitor intake manifold pressure (engine load).  It sends voltage signals to the Powertrain Control Module (PCM) that represent the engines varying load conditions.

Theory/Operation:
ECM (Electornic Control Module) supplies 5 volt sensor reference voltage. The sensor, connected to manifold vacuum at throttle body, converts intake manifold pressure into voltage.

A silicon crystal in the MAP sensor senses changes in manifold absolute pressure. This crystal changes the resistance of the sensor depending upon the manifold absolute pressure acting upon it, and the change in resistance affects the amount of voltage that the sensor allows to flow back to the ECM.

Manifold absolute pressure and voltage to ECM are directly proportional (manifold absolute pressure increases, low vacuum, voltage to ECM increases and vice versa).

Sensor resistance and manifold absolute pressure are inversely proportional (as manifold absolute pressure increases, (low vacuum), sensor resistance decreases and vice versa).

Typical Readings:
Sensor output voltage range is 0.5 to 4.5 volts.

Output voltages between 0.5 and 1.5 volts indicate a high vacuum (low pressure) situation, such as idle or deceleration.

Output voltages between 1.5 and 3.0 volts indicate a medium level of vacuum (pressure) such as a cruise or slight acceleration condition.

Output voltages between 3.0 and 4.5 volts indicate a low vacuum (high pressure) situation such as hard acceleration or a mechanical failure.

Any reading of 0 volts or over 4.5 volts indicates a problem.

NOTE: The following procedure tests the MAP sensor only.
  1. Inspect the rubber nipple (fitting) from the MAP sensor to the throttle body. Repair as necessary. CAUTION: When testing the MAP sensor, be sure that the harness wires are not damaged by the test meter probes.
  2. Test the MAP sensor output voltage at the MAP sensor connector terminal B. With the ignition switch ON, and the engine OFF. Output voltage should be 4 to 5 volts.
  3. Test the MAP sensor output voltage at the MAP sensor connector terminal B at a hot, neutral idle speed condition. The voltage should drop to 1.5 to 2.1 volts.
  4. Test MAP sensor supply voltage at sensor connector terminal C with the ignition ON. The voltage should be approximately 5 volts (±O.5 V).

THE ENHANCER

The invention we're talking about here is a simple play with resistors. A resistor is a little piece of carbon that reduces current. Higher value means it resists more.  The potentiometer (“pot” for short) is a variable resistor, which varies its value by turning the knob.  There is another resistor, a fixed value resistor, in series to the pot to increase the dial range.

The MAP or Manifold Absolute Pressure Sensor is a little though expensive device installed in your intake manifold, or installed on the firewall and connected to the manifold with a thin hose.  It has 5 Volts or 12 Volts coming in, and it simply senses the vacuum in the manifold and attenuates (reduces, weakens) this incoming voltage by a certain factor. In other words it reduces the supply voltage to a direct-current voltage in the range of 15% to 60% of the supply voltage (depending on the car's design these numbers will vary), and this varying (but non-pulsing) signal is then sent back to the computer.

On carbureted cars,
we recommend re-jetting the main jets ½ size smaller to get a leaner mixture, simply running hydrogen down the carburetor throat will not cause the carburetor to put less gas in.  Carburetors are simple, and leaning it slightly isn’t that hard.

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Oxygen Sensor Extender - This is the O2 sensor Extender.  It backs the O2 sensor back out of the exhaust pipe 3/4" so that the MAP Sensor Enhancer will produce the max MPG gains on your vehicle.  This should also turn OUT the check engine light.  You will need 2 of these if you have DUAL exhaust system.  It is very simple to install - just unscrew your O2 sensor.  Thread the extender into the exhaust pipe then thread the O2 sensor back into this unit.  It also will lean your fuel ratios down so you could see gains in MPG as much as 10% then add the MAP Enhancer and Electrolyzer and see 30 % or more MPG gains.  These Will NOT fit Some TOYOTA or SATURN vehicles.  Also,  if your O2 sensor is held on by two bolts, this will NOT fit!

When an internal combustion engine is under high load (such as when using wide-open throttle), the output of the oxygen sensor is ignored, and the engine automatically enriches the mixture to protect the engine.  Any changes in the sensor output will be ignored in this state, as are changes from the airflow meter, which might otherwise lower engine performance due to the mixture being too rich or too lean, and increase the risk of engine damage due to detonation if the mixture is too lean.

How does an O2 sensor work?

An Oxygen sensor is a chemical generator.  It is constantly making a comparison between the Oxygen inside the exhaust manifold and air outside the engine.  If this comparison shows little or no Oxygen in the exhaust manifold, a voltage is generated.  The output of the sensor is usually between 0 and 1.1 volts.  All spark combustion engines need the proper air fuel ratio to operate correctly.  For gasoline this is 14.7 parts of air to one part of fuel.  When the engine has more fuel than needed, all available Oxygen is consumed in the cylinder and gasses leaving through the exhaust contain almost no Oxygen.  This sends out a voltage greater than 0.45 volts.  If the engine is running lean, all fuel is burned, and the extra Oxygen leaves the cylinder and flows into the exhaust.  In this case, the sensor voltage goes lower than 0.45 volts.  Usually the output range seen seen is 0.2 to 0.7 volts.  The sensor does not begin to generate it's full output until it reaches about 600 degrees F.  Prior to this time the sensor is not conductive.  It is as if the circuit between the sensor and computer is not complete.  The mid point is about 0.45 volts. This is neither rich nor lean.  A fully warm O2 sensor *will not spend any time at 0.45 volts*.  In many cars, the computer sends out a bias voltage of 0.45 through the O2 sensor wire.  If the sensor is not warm, or if the circuit is not complete, the computer picks up a steady 0.45 volts.  Since the computer knows this is an "illegal" value, it judges the sensor to not be ready.  It remains in open loop operation, and uses all sensors except the O2 to determine fuel delivery.  Any time an engine is operated in open loop, it runs somewhat rich and makes more exhaust emissions.  This translates into lost power, poor fuel economy and air pollution.  The O2 sensor is constantly in a state of transition between high and low voltage.  Manufacturers call this crossing of the 0.45 volt mark O2 cross counts.  The higher the number of O2 cross counts, the better the sensor and other parts of the computer control system are working.  It is important to remember that the O2 sensor is comparing the amount of Oxygen inside and outside the engine.  If the outside of the sensor should become blocked, or coated with oil, sound insulation, undercoating or antifreeze, (among other things), this comparison is not possible.

 

When adjusting the O2 sensors, you only need modify the signal to the sensors before the catalytic converter.  Many newer cars have O2 sensors on the manifold and O2 sensors after the catalytic converter.  If you have an older car with only one O2 sensor then obviously that is the one that we adjust.

This is the O2 Sensor output voltage chart.  The output voltage tells the ECM weather the fuel mixture is "Rich" or "Lean".  The extender decreased the oxygen reading and thereby "tricks" the ECM into thinking the mixture is 14.7 to 1 when it really is higher.

 

 


 

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How many HHO Generators do I need? -  Generally speaking, you need one HHO Generator for every 2 liters of engine size.  For example, if you have a 5 liter SUV, you need at least a Dual Cell HHO Generator. 

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Void my Warranty? - According to section 2302(c) of the "Magnuson Moss Warranty Act" reproduced here in full, auto makers/dealers cannot legally void the warranty on your vehicle due to installation or addition of any aftermarket component or system - unless they can prove to the FEDERAL Trade Commission that the aftermarket part has caused or contributed to the failure in the vehicle! Magnuson Moss Warranty Act

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Freezing Weather - What about freezing cold weather?Your options for freezing weather are:

In the Electrolyzer (hydrogen generator) instead of distilled water use WASHER FLUID (not radiator anti-freeze; not gasoline anti-freeze either). I think it's enough to use a mixture of half WASHER FLUID (-20 degrees grade) and half distilled water. In this case the Electrolyze should be operated in "/divO mode" which means you pull out the fuse and you use it as a Vaporizer (water vapor injector).  Otherwise the electrolysis process will change the washer fluid back to plain water.

If you want to still be producing Hydrogen, leave the fuse on.  In this case you will need to ADD A BIT OF washer fluid before you park the vehicle for the night.  Just remove the little black cap and squirt some washer fluid into the Electrolyzer. Idea: a small pump connected to the washer fluid reservoir can do this for you with a push of a button.

I personally think this one is the best solution: Battery Warmers are being sold online for as little as $19.20. Battery Warmers from InfinitiPartsPeople.com or www.JCwhitney.com work on 110 volts, while Warming Pads from www.PadHeaters.com are good for 12 volts.

Both types above take little energy (about 60 Watts) so you can keep it on all night. You may also wrap the device and the warmer with Mylar® or aluminum foil to minimize heat loss. Disconnect the warmer before driving, because the electrolyzer will keep itself warm when active.

Another option, starting as low as $0.99 on eBay, is to place a Coffee Mug Warmer under the electrolyzer. Optionally wrap it with Mylar®, aluminum foil or some other type of insulating blanket. Search eBay for "coffee mug warmer", it will bring up many offers. Choose one, cut off the USB plug and connect it to a cigarette lighter plug (your best choice of connection so you don't have to open the hood in order to switch it on and off). I've found such a plug with an inline fuse and a long cord for $1.29 on eBay, and you can also find it at your auto parts shop for about $2.

One solution that you may like is to put quick-connect plugs on both the electrical connection and the hose connections.  Before you leave the vehicle for any extended period of time (more than 30 minutes), pop up the hood and the the device indoors. By the way, only with technology you can do this safely, since we do not use any strong acids or any other hazardous chemicals. 

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Dangerous? - Is this technology dangerous? Very dangerous - if you do stupid things! Hydrogen, any system using hydrogen as fuel, is not a toy! I've had people trying to ignite the hydrogen for fun...oh boy!!!  They just wanted to see if it would ignite... Of course it will!  Hydrogen ignites if you put a match to it, and then its flame runs at 3.5 Mach! 

Throughout the books I have placed more than enough precaution notes, for every area that may harm you or damage the vehicle.  Even when it came to toxic glues, I placed prominent warnings that you just cannot miss.

That said, Hydrogen-On-Demand technology is NOT more dangerous than the usual automotive technologies involving fuel, cooling, etc.  For instance we all know that the radiator is essential to cool down the engine, and without it the car will go up in smoke.  However, if you open the radiator cap when hot, you're going to get hurt, is that right?  The danger is not in the radiator; the danger is in ignorance and carelessness. There are safety rules and they are quite simple, but you have to know them and apply them.

Let me give you a real example: in the installation chapter you will see that you MUST keep the output hose at least 4 feet long, to prevent fire hazard. Don't cut it short even if the device is closer than 4 ft.  Maybe this "wastes" a dollar or two, but saves a lot of trouble!  Every such precaution is highlighted in the book so you cannot miss them.

In general: Hydrogen-On-Demand means that we are not storing Hydrogen! In normal operation we're using all the Hydrogen that we're producing, immediately.  There is no Hydrogen storage tank to explode in case of an accident.  MUCH SAFER THAN HYDROGEN CARS OR PROPANE/NATURAL GAS VEHICLES.

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Dual Cell Efficiency - Generally speaking, you need one HHO Cell Generator for every two liters of engine size.  Of course, this depends on the liters per hour the HHO generator produces, but this rule applies to the normal Water4gas HHO generator design.

The description below is borrowed from Patrick Kelly's document “D9.PDF”

The current flowing through the cell determines its HHO production.  This is an absolutely key factor in gas production, and one of the most difficult to control accurately and economically.  The greater the current, the greater the rate of gas production.  The current is controlled by the concentration of Baking Soda in the water and the voltage across the cell.  The voltage across the cell has limited effect as it reaches a maximum at 1.24 volts.  Up to that point, an increase in voltage causes an increase in gas production rate.  Once the voltage gets over this limit, increasing it further produces no further increase in the rate of gas production.

If the voltage is increased above 1.24 volts, the extra voltage goes to heat the water.  This can be a slight advantage, but not much. (The advantage is that heat creates more water vapor which is good for cooling down the engine.)

Let's look at the math.  We'll simplify it here for the sake of understanding.  Assume that the current through the cell is 2 amps.  In that case, the power used to produce gas is 2 amps x 1.24 volts = 2.48 watts.  When the engine is running, the voltage at the car's battery terminals will be about 13.8 volts as the alternator provides the extra voltage to drive current into the battery.  The excess voltage applied to the cell is about 1.24 less than that, or 12.56 volts.

The power which heats the electrolyte is now 12.56 volts x 2 amps = 25.12 watts.  That is more than ten times the power being used to produce gas!  This is very inefficient.  The following diagram will help you understand the situation.

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In short: The more cells, the less heat and more HHO.  Or, more correctly, higher energy efficiency for HHO production.  This is true up to 6 or 7 cells max.

So the best way to reduce heat and increase HHO production is to reduce the voltage applied to the cell by using more than one cell, or in other words several cells connected in a daisy-chain across the battery. 

Conclusion: With two cells, each will get about 7 volts across it and the gas production will be doubled.  In this case, the power used to produce gas is still 2 amps x 1.24 volts = 2.48 watts for each cell.  But now, only 13.8 volts / 2 cells in series  = 6.9 volts.  Subtract 1.24 volts to create HHO which leaves only 5.66 volts or 11.32 watts to heat each cell instead of 25.12 watts with a single cell. This represents a 55% reduction in heat producing voltage and 100% increase in HHO production. 

 If space in the engine compartment allows, a chain of six cells can be used which means each receives about two volts and the waste power is reduced to an absolute minimum - while the gas production is six times higher.

With the higher rate of gas production, it would probably be possible to reduce the chosen current flowing through the cell (good for smaller batteries and alternators such as in gas scooters and go carts).  Also, with six cells, the amount of water is six times greater and so there will be less concentrating of the electrolyte due to the water being used up.

Let's summarize the benefits of the multi-cell setup:

1. Multiply HHO production,
2. Reduce heat,
3. More water stored in the system.

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